jimbetty 发表于 2019-12-30 00:09

FitGirl网站站长对于本次NFSH未加密的声明(大致翻译)

先上原文
Yesterday ShivShubh (CorePack team, currently almost non-active, so don’t blame the whole group) released a P2P crack for Need for Speed: Heat. In the attachment he has added that this crack was sent to him by some “private friend” (citing: “This crack was made possible entirely with the help from a very private friend so credits to him but his identity I will not disclose.”). Well, no.I was happy in the beginning. I had the repack ready since the game official release, and that 16.2 GB were sitting there for 1.5 months already. I quickly verified the crack files and then ran it on three PCs I have access to. On my home Windows 7 it worked. But on the other two Windows 10 PCs it crashed after a few seconds in the task manager. That was strange. I’ve experienced similar behavior before, with older DeltaT cracks, CPY’s Octopath Traveler, some CODEX cracks. It always ment Denuvo triggers in place.And then I took a closer look at the crack files itself. And they looked very familiar to all latest CODEX Denuvo cracks. Yep, even the main crack file has the denuvo64.dll as a name and it is almost the same size as last CODEX Borderlands 3 crack. But that doesn’t mean anything, right? Wrong. If you open that DLL in CFF Explorer and go to Exports table, you will see a phrase “DenuvoIsFinished”, which is a CODEX “watermark” for all of their D cracks. You can find it in the said BL3 crack as well.What is different though is the compressibility of those files. NFSH dll can be compressed to less than 100 KB, while other CODEX cracks are almost uncompressible due to custom protection/compression they use to protect their Denuvo findings from competitive groups and Irdeto, the owner of Denuvo.Just to be 100% sure I asked a few renowned members of cs.rin.ru about that crack (who know stuff about cracks, debugging and so on) – they all confirmed my suspicions. So currently the situation looks like this to me.CODEX did their crack on November 15 (timestamp on a file) and started testing it. It’s a major group, they have to have at least a dozen of testers on different setups to check their cracks. It’s almost a New Year now – 1.5 months has passed. The only reason of them NOT releasing this crack is a bad state of it. Not working on two of my machines just confirms the theory.Unfortunately, one of their testers wasn’t as good as they thought. And he/she leaked outside the group. I don’t know when it happened, but the tester who did it is a complete fucking idiot.Not only he leaked what had to stay private, but he leaked the unprotected crack. Which is now in hands of Denuvo engineers – and trust me, they are not dumb, they will make all their best to NOT allow those methods to work anymore. So, my dear tester idiot and ShivShubh (who confirmed that he shared that crack with COREPACK TESTERS before releasing the crack to public). You both just made Denuvo stronger. And nobody will tell when CODEX or CPY or anyone else will make their Denuvo cracks again, if ever.Congratulations.Nobody did better job for this DRM than you two. You can now go and apply for a position in Irdeto.And you, my fellow pirates, let’s just hope that anti-Denuvo war will continue after that huge blow. But don’t expect miracles now. Even if it’s a New Year Eve. And yes, even if the crack would be perfect, after I’ve discovered it’s been stolen I would never make a repack based on it. Yep, I’m not a scene, but without those guys repackers are nothing and every single group deserves respect for their efforts.大致意思就是:1、本次NFSH的未加密补丁是CODEX组的不完全补丁,是偷出来的(原话,标题),会出现各种各样的问题(收到消息FG站长一开始也很高兴,但是经过测试后发现补丁存在异常,之后解码发现了“DenuvoIsFinished”等CODEX常用的注解,之后又在补丁大小,以及站长认识的一些相关人士之间取证,确认了这一噩耗)2、为什么说是噩耗呢,因为未加密补丁本身应该也是个经过加密的文件,还在测试中的补丁被D加密的工程师拿去研究然后完全ban掉,对以后D加密的pojie可以说是灾难级的。。会使D加密更加强大。。。(原文)所以这次把补丁偷出来的人和散布补丁的人,站长亲切的恭喜了他们留下了历史(原文是那种特别嘲讽的语气),而且“没人能知道CDOEX组或CPY组再次攻破D加密需要多久了”。。。3、如果真的是这样,那么就是一起相当于公司机密泄露的事件,这两个负主责的人不仅会被钉在耻辱柱上,全世界的学习家都要坠入寒冬了吧。。。

wazxy 发表于 2019-12-30 00:11

這版,你這個是第3篇了,而且我不認爲FitGirl可以代表什麽。

kdmmp2002 发表于 2019-12-30 03:38

本帖最后由 kdmmp2002 于 2019-12-30 04:05 编辑

wazxy 发表于 2019-12-30 00:11
這版,你這個是第3篇了,而且我不認爲FitGirl可以代表什麽。
目前被點名的 CorePack 把網頁關了
感覺好像真的有內情
不過雙C組很低調不會出面說明
真相看起來只有等時間證實了

csselina 发表于 2019-12-30 04:30

我到觉得是个好事 因为 可以让更多未加密小组了解D加密 :lol 等于说C组未加密的一些技术共享了出去 :lol
还有别太小看D加密的工程师了 说好像工程师没办法解密未加密补丁的加密~0~ 毕竟人家是家盈利公司 我不信D公司老板会请一堆没办法解密未加密补丁的废物工程师来 ;P

Sumeragihyf 发表于 2019-12-30 04:59

本帖最后由 Sumeragihyf 于 2019-12-30 05:04 编辑

从没听说过fitgirl石皮过啥游戏,fitgirl一直干的事就是压缩打包别人石皮好的事,对于石皮界他就是一外人,跟在座的各位没啥区别
我win10 1909玩着没问题,觉得还不错,完了俩小时就删了然后入了正,正版明显比学习版要流畅的多,所以这次事件个人猜测可能就是这个新学习小组手艺不精效果不好,然后使用了一些前辈的手段还被看出来了,又基于某些捕风捉影的或者没有必然联系的信息被人脑补出了一部大戏

littlesimon 发表于 2019-12-30 07:55

凛冬将至

Ayer′ 发表于 2019-12-30 08:13

反正是时间问题 道高一尺魔高一丈

StrollerRalphy 发表于 2019-12-30 09:42

国外已经开始相互站队了,这是另一个压制小组REALiTY反驳fitgirl的说法:


简直就和评论说的一样,这部网剧真有趣!

看戏就行了,这种时候何必跑到舞台中央去显摆,这么想做主角嘛,哎。

duan120 发表于 2019-12-30 09:53

第三个这种帖子

chenlu998 发表于 2019-12-30 09:59

本地的未加密未来是越来越少这是趋势,以后主流都是云平台游戏,该付钱的付钱,除非自己架设私服。所以没什么好担忧的,唯一就是投钱买正版。

瞬间燃烧 发表于 2019-12-30 11:18

三大妈2016年的时候就说未来可能学习版的不会存在了,但现在都9102年了,学习版仍然源源不断地在出来。

faith793107410 发表于 2019-12-30 11:27

瞬间燃烧 发表于 2019-12-30 11:18
三大妈2016年的时候就说未来可能学习版的不会存在了,但现在都9102年了,学习版仍然源源不断地在出来。 ...

历史总是惊人地相似

1649536801 发表于 2019-12-30 11:29

StrollerRalphy 发表于 2019-12-30 09:42
国外已经开始相互站队了,这是另一个压制小组REALiTY反驳fitgirl的说法:




我反正是这样想的 vmp人家denuvo没手段解开吗?codex非盈利,破d有难度。d人家专职的,这个就很明显了嘛
现在就是看真相是什么,
对以后的d加密影响是微乎其微的

StrollerRalphy 发表于 2019-12-30 11:48

1649536801 发表于 2019-12-30 11:29
我反正是这样想的 vmp人家denuvo没手段解开吗?codex非盈利,破d有难度。d人家专职的,这个就很明显了嘛
...
这种事看戏就行了{:3_153:}

我是稍微了解过一些VMP加壳的事情。Denuvo公司自己也使用这种加壳技术,必要时也可以直接寻求VMProtect公司的帮助(两家公司之间甚至可能拥有专利交叉授权),解开这个壳根本毫无压力(感受资本家之间沆瀣一气的威力吧!),说CODEX加VMP壳是为了防D公司解壳,这想法实在太幼稚了。CODEX给自己的Crack加壳确实是为了保护自己的技术,但防的不是D公司,而是...算了你们还是自己动脑去想吧。


但本次事件的真相我并不清楚,到底谁是恶人、或者说到底有没有恶人,现在也没定论,现在这个时间段出来带节奏真是唯恐天下不乱。

freshminds 发表于 2019-12-30 12:09

codex似乎正在掌握移除D加密的精髓,未来的大招不是绕过了,而是直接移除

cokehk 发表于 2019-12-30 12:33

我認識了有離線版這種玩意,開始遊戲都是買個離線版玩就可以,價錢那麼便宜,等未加密都等到天荒地老了

ytddll 发表于 2019-12-30 20:20

阴谋论又来了,这种事应该轮不到一个做repack的来BB

lmrlmrlme 发表于 2019-12-30 20:26

DENUVO怎么还不倒闭!!!
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